Serving and retired submariners in
attendance at Deep Blue Forum 2025
Hanwha Team with Terri Pavelic, Editor-in-chief, Vanguard
Front row - VAdm Steve SK Jeong, Terri Pavelic, Ha Yeon Jang,
Mai-Tai Kang Back row - DongYoon Han, Mun Hee Choi, Issac Bae
TKMS Team with Terri Pavelic, Editor-in-chief, Vanguard and J. Richard Jones, Vanguard
Radio host. Le to right: Joachim Schoenfeld, Philipp Schöen, Rick Gerbrecht, Bob Davidson
Le to right: Denis Couillard, Director of Solutions Development, Ultra I&C; Brian May,
Section Head, Scientific & Engineering Trials, Atlantic Research Centre;
RAdm Nigel Greenwood RCN (Ret'd); Cmdre Laurence (Larry) Hickey RCN (Ret'd)
Le to right: Cara Salci, Vice President of Growth, Industry and Corporate
Affairs, Thales Canada; Marc LeBlanc, Senior Director Business
Development, L3Harris Technologies; Ian Flight, CPSP Program Manager,
Babcock Canada Inc.; Patrice Miron, Team Lead, Program Management
Support Office, Department of National Defence
24DECEMBER 2025/JANUARY 2026 www.vanguardcanada.com
Summary
Deep Blue 2025 was a continuum from
the previous five conferences, which looked
at the critical areas facing acceptance and
through life support of a new submarine ca-
pability that is being procured under incred-
ibly rapid timelines. Regardless of which
submarine design is eventually selected,
how will Canada be ready to operate and
sustain a sovereign submarine capability that
will reflect a significant portion of the RCN
fleet? Hopefully the frank interchange dur-
ing Deep Blue 2025 will facilitate greater
discussion between the RCN, government
and industry, as only with a team effort by
all participants will the Canadian Patrol
Submarine Project succeed.
Capt(N) Norman Jolin RCN (Ret'd) is an
Associate Consultant with CFN Consultants
specializing in naval and maritime issues.
Prior to joining CFN, he provided advice
on Canadian defence procurement in the
private sector, following a 37-year career in
the Royal Canadian Navy.
